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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2018, 04:34:40 PM »
Rainagain,

Awesome. I got Pete Walkers 'Surviving to Thriving' today by post. I havent even opened it yet but I feel relief knowing I have it.

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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2018, 12:23:38 AM »
Hi

it might be an idea to talk to Mind

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/

they have a lot of practical help available and may be able to point you to others that can.

knowledge is power.

Can I ask what kind of business you were in? It may be that there is some kind of representation available that is biased to that industry.




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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2018, 12:47:04 AM »
Hi Rainagain,

This is great advice. I first informed my gp that I was experiencing "symptoms not unlike PTSD" in December 2016. He looked at me with a glum, deadpan face as if he was looking at the most deluded and over dramatic person he had ever met. He was committed to not giving validation to me because he had withheld validation 3 years previously when he refused to say on a sickline that my stress was work related.

During the same meeting with him in December 2016, he angrily refuted my suggestion that I felt unsupported at the time of redundancy and addressed me as if I was a great nuisance to him. He told me he would prefer if I would go to a different doctor because he was fed up with what I was repeatedly bringing to him. He later withdrew this statement. He knew he was on dangerous ground. In the same conversation, while I was describing the trouble I had at the hands of my employer who he refused to protect me from, he said  " so it didnt work out." He also said to me "Are you going to move on or what?" This was the day when I first told him I thought my symptoms were consistent with PTSD. At the time I did not understand the distinction between PTSD and CPTSD.

I had been trapped in a no win situation for 4.5 years being stressed daily by a terrible boss who systematically undermined me while I alone carried out his most demanding role to the highest standard the company had seen in 40 years of operating. After many protests about bad treatment they reframed my stress to be personal instability, unrelated to the owner's behaviour and with the assistance of my gp, who I invited into the situation for support for me, they unfairly dismissed me. My gp helped them with their need to get rid of me by withholding the only defense I had available at the time... a diagnosis of work related stress. I had been to my gp twice over a 3 year period prior to redundancy telling him I was  being mistreated. He refused to give me the diagnosis 2 weeks before I was unfairly dismissed even though I told him I was about to be dismissed if he only gave me the diagnosis of 'Stress related illness', something which he  had had to give me several times in my life prior to this job but never as a result of workplace harassment. My gp refused to validate my claim of work related stress because he knew my bully and he wanted to avoid conflict. My gp left me helpless and because of him my stress went from damaging to devastating.

12 weeks after he refused to link my stress to my employment (and I was sacked) I put the palm of my hand through a heavy glass door and a smashed a mirror with my fist in an outburst with family members and I ended up in hospital getting nerves and muscles in the side of my wrist rejoined. I nearly lost the use of my left hand. While in hospital I thought I would have to be taken seriously now but no. My gp steadfastly stuck to his story that he had done all he could do and this implied that my problems were too mysterious for him to understand. I had told him what was happening from the beginning but what I was facing was too inconveniemt for him so he denied its validity. My gp made things worse and I am living CPTSD now every day.


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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2018, 12:56:45 AM »
Hi

it might be an idea to talk to Mind

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/

they have a lot of practical help available and may be able to point you to others that can.

knowledge is power.

Can I ask what kind of business you were in? It may be that there is some kind of representation available that is biased to that industry.

Hi James, 

It was a boat building company. Fibregalss boats,  RIBs. Just yesterday I was informed by a former colleague that a long standing, very hard working, very good natured  Polish man has also had to leave the company through stress caused by the owner. I am one of a ling list of people to be bullied by this man. I have never met a man like this in my 43 years in this earth. He beggars belief. He is a dreadful combination of arrogance, unintelligence and vengefulness. He ruins your mind with stress then calls you unstable. My gp went along with that. My gp made matters worse.

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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2018, 03:21:13 AM »
Hi thetruth,
Welcome to the forum.  I'm glad to hear that Pete Walker's Book is due to arrive tomorrow, and I hope you'll find it really helpful - it's a great book - not sure which one you've got - as I know he's written 3 that I know of, but they are all good - I've read them all.

I would like to wish you the best in moving forward - and hope you'll find support and validation here.

Hope  :)

Hi Hope67,

I am already finding support and validation here. I am trying to get to the way of thinking that my case is solid and strong enough to bring. My GP has done a good job of undermining my case and weakening me. I have a case against him as a result. Negligence. He refused to engage with the facts because the facts were inconvenient for him. I am injured as a direct response of my GPs practice.

It is criminal to tell a bullied person thet have not been bullied, their stress is not important enough to take seriously or there is nothing that can be done about it anyway. He acted in direct defiance of what I was telling him. If that is not negligence then what is?

Thank you.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2018, 04:58:48 AM »
thetruth,

You might find citizens advice bureau is a decent place to start.

Or go straight for personal injury lawyer.

I think you need to transfer to a new GP too, but get advice first.

You may not have a legally strong enough case to get something off the ground, I can see what has been done to you but its a hard area of law to succeed at.

If you can't bring a case just remember its the fault if the legal system and not your fault, I'd hate for my advice to make things worse for you.

For me bringing the case is a bit of pay back for being victimised, I am showing my abusers that I am unafraid and able to assert my rights, it is half stressful and half healing.

My psych describes my trauma as ongoing because of the case, but I don't mind really, after years of mistreatment a year or two more where the balance of power is more equal is bearable.

You might have easier redress against your GP.

I'm quite a fan of revenge but it is akin to self harm too.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2018, 05:53:10 AM »
Hi Rainagain,

I have re-engaged with a new gp. My old one who caused the injury has retired. My new doctor is younger, female, and might be more helpful. I have letter drafted to, among other things, inform her that my old gps notes can only mislead her. My old gps notes are so obtuse they are a disgrace. They are framed to protect him and to detract from my credibility.

My new gp said she would make a referal for me to see a psychiatrist. She did not do this. The community mental health team read me her referal over the phone. She did not ask for a psychiatrist. I wanted a psychiatrist to explore my belief that I am experiencing CPTSD.

What has come out of her referal is a meeting with a community mental health nurse on friday 18th May. I was planning to share my letter detailing my trouble over the last  5 years with the nurse on Friday. However, after what you have said I ought to seek legal advice before I 'show my hand'.

I have already told my new gp I believe I have CPTSD resulting from workplace harassment. I have not yet raised the fact that my old gp made matters worse, which he did.

My old GP said he 'could not' put work related stress on my sickline just because I said it. What he really meant was he 'would not' and didnt have to, just because I said it, because it would potentially inconvenience him in the future. He caused my stress to double.

For me avoiding the issue has not helped, if anything it has made me more unwell. That is why I simply must give it my time and energy now. I have lost years to this, the crimes of others in positions of power who abused that power to avoid hassle. Employer and doctor.

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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2018, 06:18:40 AM »
well there ya go. The doc was either an idiot, narcissistic or both. Certainly a dinosaur. A lot has changed in the last 5 years so go for it. You have a lot of science on your side now.

I think you have a very good case. Reach out for advice everywhere and anywhere you can.

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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2018, 07:57:19 AM »
well there ya go. The doc was either an idiot, narcissistic or both. Certainly a dinosaur. A lot has changed in the last 5 years so go for it. You have a lot of science on your side now.

I think you have a very good case. Reach out for advice everywhere and anywhere you can.

James,

I think my doctor was uninterested in getting involved in anything messy as he was approaching retirement and he didnt want to be seen to be in opposition/ conflict with a local businessman (my boss) that he moved in the same social circles as.

My former boss enjoys a false reputation of being a dignified succesful businessman. Only those that have worked for this man know what a vengeful, petty, dishonest person he is. My doctor went with the version that suggested that because I had previous struggles with depression then I could be categorisd as irrational and unreliable to avoid the hassle of believing that I had been treated unfairly. This meant he could wash his hands of my grievances and refuse me support.

 There was never the slightest murmuring from this health care professional that it would be in my best interests to have my employment protected. He couldnt go with that because that meant taking a stand against a businessman and that would be hassle. Where my doctor should have provided support to me he denied me it. By default, he provided support to my bully who had free reign  then to unfairly dismiss me.

Know what I mean? His decision making thwarted me and strengthened them. He left me helpless in the face of criminal abuse and wrongful selection for redundancy.


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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2018, 08:01:17 AM »
well there ya go. The doc was either an idiot, narcissistic or both. Certainly a dinosaur. A lot has changed in the last 5 years so go for it. You have a lot of science on your side now.

I think you have a very good case. Reach out for advice everywhere and anywhere you can.

James,

My anxiety is high, my energy is low and my head hurts. I dont know who to reach out to. Ok I will try to take on board suggestions on here. Citizens advice?

I wrote a letter to the fair employment agency in 2010. I was so paranoid I made it anonymous. I didnt get a response. I can copy and paste it in here. 2010 Im nearly sure.

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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2018, 04:54:13 PM »
Ah thetruth,

I am so sorry about your troubles.

Ireland is poor at health care.

Your GP was probably in the same masonic lodge as your abuser.

I've had an awful day with my case, its so hard to get revenge or redress.

Thinking of you.
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2018, 12:22:39 AM »
yes, citizens advice, mind and possibly even one of the trade union groups affiliated with that industry.

Older docs, especially men have a pathetic view view of mental health. I've hit it once or twice but younger doctors never take these stances. There is a big initiative to change all this now so go with it.

You should try and get your new GP to refer you to a counsellor as a first move too. Then you can increase your case.

Meanwhile it is very important to get to grips with the key thing we all have to understand in here to get recovery started, this is not your fault, your reaction is normal and the thing can be beaten. You'll be fine, you've made your first importnant steps to turning this around and you are not alone. Horrible as you feel now, trust in the fact that this will change the more you learn and understand how it works. It's your brain doing what your brain does under difficult conditions. Anyone would react the same way with the same stimuli.

Defiance.

Understanding.

Persistence.


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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2018, 11:36:29 AM »
Hi James,

Thanks very much for all of this. I have started to read Pete Walkers ' From Surviving to Thriving'. It has altered my mind. It has somewhat broken the spell that was over me. I am experiencing a bizarre and unexpected relief. I hardly know what to do with myself. I feel like Ive just been allowed to stop having a fight with a demon that wouldnt stop fighting for months. I truly feel like Ive just came out of a war. I have just come out of a war but guess what.. the same thoughts about justice and revenge have affected me today. The difference is Ive been given a valuable new line if thought that I could not have arrived at on my own without reading the book.

I feel validated. I have to add, it wasnt only the book that helped me turn a corner. It was talking to other people on here via this forum.

I am still weary and sleepy but who wouldnt be after 4 months of intense CPTSD stress. I said I needed immediate relief in recent days on this forum.  I have got it for now. I was being driven to the edge by the inability of my own mind to sort this stuff out and find peace. My heaf has been hurting for many weeks. Today it doesnt hurt.

Thanks everyone who has spoke to.me here. I am getting respote which I will cherish for as long as it lasts.

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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2018, 04:05:50 PM »
I am getting respote which I will cherish for as long as it lasts.

 :)   :cheer:  Do come back before the respite gives out and I'm sure our combined efforts will give you more respite.  :)
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2018, 04:55:14 PM »
Hi Blueberry,  Sorry for the typos. The respite continues. So good.