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#1
"She cheated on her boyfriend with me and must have told him I raped her to excuse her infidelity."

That's what my ex told me when a man confronted him at a bar. The man said he'd hired someone to kill my ex. It all seemed so outlandish and unrealistic. "Hiring hits on a person's head" is only something that happens in movies, right?

Soon later I discovered he'd cheated. Everything is a blur after that. He said he still wanted to be with me. I tried to forgive him. Somewhere after that a second person accused him of rape and I thought it must have been about the same woman. I think there may have been a third accuser, but maybe they were all about the same person? I couldn't imagine it being true - rapists don't date, right? He would have raped me, right? I would have found evidence, right? A rapist couldn't possibly be so "normal," right? I couldn't imagine the accusers were telling the truth.

I was struggling to trust him when he became distant like he had just before I'd discovered he'd cheated. I told him my mistrust was unfair to him (the old "it's not you - it's me") and that it would be best if we were just friends. Then I realized I couldn't handle having him in my life at all. That's when his behavior changed dramatically.

I caught him sitting outside my house in his car at all hours of the day and night. He showed up on two of my dates. He snuck into my house at the end of a party and listened to my conversations from the next room. He'd call me 40 times in one day. He wrote me emails chronicling our sexual experiences and threatening to share those details with anyone who I talked to about him. He carved my name into the hilt of one of his many guns. He must have gone to my favorite bar every night because on the rare occasion I went he was always there. He would stand in the shadows and watch me. If a friend was alone he'd approach him/her to say how good a person I was, how he/she should take care of me, and if he/she asked who he was he'd merely say, "Just ask WarmMuddle".

I started to realize: I'd never really known this man.  We'd dated for a year, but I'd had NO idea who he really was. I knew he didn't have enough integrity to be "marriage material," but I hadn't expected any of this creepy behavior at this level. I was so embarrassed that I'd ever dated him.

I gradually began to realize...maybe those accusers hadn't been talking about the same woman? Maybe she/they had been speaking the truth?

Then a friend broke down to me. She said she'd run into him at a party, he gave her a drink, then she woke up naked in his bed. She's a lesbian and couldn't understand how she possibly could have slept with any man.

I contacted the stalker unit at my local police station. I printed all the emails he'd sent me - I was embarrassed by the details of our sex life, but none of it was against the law. I urged my friend to contact them, too. She never brought herself to do it. I couldn't understand how she felt so ashamed when nothing SHE did was wrong. I only now realize how ashamed I feel as a result of his emotional abuse.

I'm still haunted by the idea that someone I knew...someone I dated...someone I felt love for was a rapist!

I struggle to trust anyone and everyone. I question everyone's "true self." When my husband became distant due to work stress I started wondering, "is he a monster-in-disguise, too?" I'm afraid to make new friends. I've cut contact with anyone who's purposefully caused me emotional pain. I feel ashamed and guilty that I didn't realize sooner, that I didn't believe his accusers implicitly, that I didn't somehow prevent his assault of my friend, and even that I couldn't convince my friend to report it to the police.

Has anyone else struggled with trust in this way? What helped you learn to trust your intuition after something like this?
#2
Quote from: sanmagic7 on September 06, 2016, 09:53:11 PM
sometimes that road is full of switchbacks - but, the main thing is that in the end, we are able to see what truly is. 

I need to re-read this a few times to remind myself to give myself a break! Here I was thinking, "I've worked so hard on this before - the fact that it's coming up again must mean I did something wrong." :/
#3
Hi, Sanmagic7.

I can't thank you enough for sharing your thoughts. They've actually given me a lot of clarity, though probably not in the way you'd expect.

Firstly, to address your well-founded concerns: We've been seeing a therapist for 2.5 years now and the T's been recommending my H take antidepressant supplements the whole time. H's also changed in a lot of ways outside our relationship: he never makes time to see friends, rarely walks the dogs (he used to daily), rarely cooks (something else he used to do daily), rarely washes his car (he used to weekly), and has lost interest in most of the TV shows he used to love. When he's not at work he sits in the dark and plays video games and often "forgets" to eat meals or shower.

In his defense, related to his worst offense: I've talked to several of his coworkers (both male and female) who've also accidentally stayed out all night after the business owner (who I'm pretty sure has NPD) starts drinking with them in the office at 2pm and keeps giving/buying them drinks even after the bars close. This guy is seriously a NIGHTMARE, but that's another long story.

But your post made me realize: THIS is why I got so triggered! I dated lot of PDs before my H and between that and my sis I know how normal they can seem at first. And these changes in my husband really worried me for exactly that reason: "Is this the real man I married? Was everything before a show?"

BUT since H has started his new job (he's still at the old place half the week) he's been so much more like his old self again! It's been startling, but also encouraging. To me its the strongest proof that he really is the guy I married and that he's been depressed, rather than revealing his PD.
#4
Hi, everyone! I'm a long-time member of OOTF, but got referred over here.b

Long story short: my enabling parents prioritized my older uBPD sis's needs and wants over my own - to the point of leaving me alone in the house at a young age when sis pressured them (via fits) to take her on roadtrips.

Fast forward to present: I've worked hard on my cPTSD over the last several years and only now realize that a year ago I got super triggered by my husband's inconsiderate behavior (he came home at 5AM from drinking with coworkers) in combination with his depression symptoms.

He's accidentally stayed out that late once before and I was able to stay level-headed while placing a boundary, but he started showing LOTS of symptoms of depression (sleeping 12 hours a day, complete loss of interest in hobbies, etc.).

I now realize something about my husband's depression (the emotional abandonment?) triggered abandonment issues in me. Has anyone else experienced this?

I'm working through these issues and seeing my T in a couple weeks, but I'm looking for more specific ways to work (if there are any). I've been doing EMDR at home like my T taught me, I've been (successfully) reevaluating the pain I feel from my husband's innocuous behavior (e.g., watching a TV show without me when he didn't even know I wanted to watch it), reminding myself the pain is actually from my FOO, reminding myself that I did NOTHING to bring on my parents' maltreatment and it wasn't my fault (and the same goes for any maltreatment my husband engages in), and reminding myself I'm a strong and capable adult who doesn't NEED a partner. Anything else?

Thank you for reading/listening.  :)