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It's a term I use to encompass the ongoing individual trauma we experience at the hands of us via abuse/neglect so not used by many at the moment (although Pete Walker talks a lot about relational healing - see and )

"Complex Trauma" is what's used in MH circles although it is relatively new and not accepted by all.  In my experience many researchers and some clinicians are stuck on PTSD and don't differentiate between ongoing trauma caused at the hands of others (abuse/neglect) and shorter term trauma of war/disaster/crime.  Relational trauma does this but isn't an official term used by many just yet - it's something I am advocating for so that we become known as a distinct group with a distinct diagnosis.  I will be speaking in March at a trauma summit about this and as a Co-Chair of the ISTSS Complex Trauma Special Interest Group I am working to get members to distinguish those of us who experienced ongoing relational trauma  as a separate (and very large) survivor group much like soldiers and emergency workers with PTSD are identified. It's a work in progress.  ;D


(Note: Our notification feature has a glitch but at the moment I am caught up in terms of time and energy in a family health issue.  Hope to get to the glitches once things settle.)

I tweeted the link out on Twitter too - good to spread the word about the physical effects of relational trauma as far and wide as we can so we don't hide and feel ashamed and different.  We need to think of ourselves as injured at the hands of others - survivors of crime on par with physical injuries (e.g. stabbing, shooting, assault, torture...), and deserving of treatment, services and support.   

Therapy / Re: Info about Therapy
« on: October 15, 2020, 02:38:15 PM »
Scientists Unpack How the Brain Separates Present from Past Dangers—While Signaling Safety

Some science to explain why the past lives on in us, why we can't simply forget our trauma and why/how we have difficulty distinguishing between safety and threat in the present because of how the past has wired our brain/nervous system.  It's all about proteins and expressing/inhibitory neurons.

They found that protein synthesis in specific inhibitory neurons in the amygdala—Somatostatin-expressing neurons—is crucial for storing information about the cued threat whereas protein synthesis in PKCδ-expressing neurons is necessary for storing complementary information about safety cues.

Activity in these populations of neurons was previously shown to occur in processing threat-related cues; however, this is the first study to connect the necessity of new protein synthesis in these neurons to the stabilization of long-term emotional memories.

 :thumbup:   Tks for this link - important for us to understand how/why the brain and body respond to trauma and what we can do about it.  Love his sense of humour and the twinkle in his eyes!

Checking Out / Re: Taking a Hopefully Brief Break
« on: October 13, 2020, 03:08:29 PM »
 :heythere:  Hi Buddy

No problem popping in and out as you want or need to, please do whatever makes sense to you  :yes:

 We'll be here  :grouphug:

Announcements / Re: Countries Members are From
« on: October 11, 2020, 02:49:23 PM »
26 27 countries and counting - relational trauma is a hidden pandemic (vs epidemic).

Questions/Suggestions/Comments / Re: Thank you
« on: October 11, 2020, 02:28:34 PM »
  :hug:    :grouphug:    :hug:      :grouphug:    :hug:

Having an Exceptionally Difficult Day / Re: I feel trapped
« on: October 08, 2020, 03:14:06 PM »
Wow, that's brilliant!  So glad to hear you advocated for yourself and there are some options for you  :thumbup:   Bravo you!    :applause:   :cheer: 

Questions/Suggestions/Comments / Re: Thank you
« on: October 07, 2020, 04:35:32 PM »
That's wonderful that you are being discharged Boats  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Glad OOTS was helpful in your recovery and thanks for playing a part in mine/ours. That's what it's all about - having a 'trauma tribe' even if it's a cyber one so we're not so alone dealing with our CPTSD.

Tks in advance for popping back now and again, it sends a real and much needed message of hope to hear from fellow survivors who have come a long way in recovery/healing.


Having an Exceptionally Difficult Day / Re: I feel trapped
« on: October 03, 2020, 01:27:03 PM »
Really sorry to hear you're having a tough go of it right now AlterEgo but I have to say you do have a lot on your plate. 

A lot of us here wish our stress would end without necessarily wanting to take our lives - again I think that's normal for us because we've had a long run of trauma in our lives and when things layer on top of that it can be overwhelming.  IMO it seems a normal response based on what you've been through as a survivor.

I hope the landlady will let you out of the lease. If not, given COVID there may be legal avenues to get out of the lease that weren't available before.


Ideas/Tools for Recovery / Three Good Things Today - Part 7
« on: October 02, 2020, 02:07:27 PM »
We're at Part 7 - proof positive we do heal    :yes:     :thumbup:   

Let us know what three good things happened in your life today.   :yes:

It's not working properly at the moment so I will look into it but it will have to wait as I am dealing with my husband's stroke at the moment.  If there are other glitches plse post them here and I will get to them as soon as I am able.

Ideas/Tools for Recovery / Re: Three Good Things Today ... Part 6
« on: September 25, 2020, 11:49:54 AM »
Who knew so many people like bin day!  ;D

Ideas/Tools for Recovery / Re: Three Good Things Today ... Part 6
« on: September 24, 2020, 12:50:21 PM »
Oceanstar, I laughed when I saw you had written bin day as one of your good things - it's my H's favourite day of the week so I make sure to tell him that I have put them out while he's recovering from his stroke.  Seems to make his day  ;D

1. Finally convinced doctors H's meds were causing him to go all wonky if they didn't give them to him laying down. Yesterday they did so and he didn't have another episode of  what's called syncope (like a seizure/passing out due to blood pressure dropping to much and too quickly).

2. Spoke to docs, nurses, all therapists, social worker and the Personal Care Supervisor about health and safety issues my H had since being transferred to the rehab facility and feel heard and have seen action taken.  Much better yesterday thankfully.

3. My H's COVID test finally came back and it was negative so don't have to don full PPE anymore around him (so hot, don't know how frontline HCWs do it!), just a mask.

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