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#61
Rowan,
I'm as uneducated as one can be, and still have even the tiniest bit of knowledge in this vast areana of trauma and the life long effects of it.
Since all of my memories were repressed until last year, I only knew I had been through something, as I began developing ptsd in 1994...and have lived with it ever since. I know now that it is CPTSD. And I also know why. All those memories are a mind blowing collection of one horrible trauma after another after another after another....

It's very hard to feel EFs to something that isn't real or didn't actually happen. Not onnly that, our minds in their vast wonderfulness, have a capacity for storage that defies all logic and discription. Unfortunately for most trauma survivors, we just don't have access to most of that stored away stuff. Some is "lost" forever...in our brains. However, that being said, our bodies are completely different....muscle memories...like remembering how to ride a bike after many years of not riding. In that, our bodies remember trauma that our minds have forgotten or even couldn't rmember because of how traumatizing it was.
If you feel something....don't poke and prod...be gentle and let it have it's space. It will come to you, and if you aren't as patient as some...seek help with trauma trained professionals. Digging into our own pasts, in this specific areana, on our own can be disasterous, leading to being retraumatized, quite frequently even more traumatized than the original event.

Trust your gut....would it bother you so much if it really were nothing? No, not really...therefor....it must be something. Occam's Razor helps out, here, the simplest way to the truth is always best. Not too many turns to get lost in.  Nobody can tell you what you feel or how you feel it. For many years I suffered painful body memories...I mean dizzying, nauseating, mind searing painful....without ever even knowing what it was. I was far too afraid to go to dr for checkup, thinking I had colon cancer or something else in that body region.  Was greatly releaved that protstate exam cleared any concerns about the cancer worry. However...it was a doulble edged sword....dr saw "extensive scarring" his words....questioned me on possibilites of having been sa/r. Told him no way in He**! But totally freaked me out. This was about 4 years before my memories actually started returning. But took many months beyond that point before I even remembered that exam.

Sorry....dissociated for a bit...back now....I think.....

You made an excellent point to your very own mystery question..."were very baddly triggered"...I don't think one can be triggered by from something that isn't there, that didn't happen, that is false, fake, or pretend. Some part of our whole being knows the truth...hence the trigger effect.    Safe  :hug: if okay.
#62
 :hug: We love hugs, and love sharing them even more! Especially with special friends like you, big and little Hopes.  ;D Not to leave out our other special friends here...we love sharing hugs with you all too!!!  :grouphug:
#63
Recovery Journals / Re: Hope66's Journal
July 06, 2018, 12:21:39 AM
Quote from: Hope67 on July 03, 2018, 02:28:28 PM
Hi Andyman & Sceal - thank you both so much for your lovely comments here - lovely to read them from you both.   :hug: :hug:
Hope  :)
:hug: Hi Hope. I really hope your time away was pleasaant and relaxing.  :bighug:
#64
Was telling psychologist about early childhood memories, espeically about csa/r at age 2. He questioned me on the validity. So I told him I have always had other memories from the same week that that had happened...good memories of fun things that happened inbetween the bad things. He said that settles it. Most folks in his experience don't really have other memories from the same exact timeframe to corroborate their claims. Not saying that they were remembeering horrible trauma, just they had no way to confirm.  Felt really good that have him validate me like that. Which was about the only time he did. Well....that and also saying that none of my trauma was my fault.
#65
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :grouphug:
So glad to hear that you making some progress. We....not so much. But only still new in our journey.
#66
Quote from: Sceal on July 02, 2018, 07:59:43 AM
Sorry to hear that your friend went through such an ordeal. And hopefully she'll recover her sight, if not all then atleast some more. The brain is a funny thing, maybe it'll rewire some neurons to help her see more. I'm glad she called you and that you got to know what happened - and I hope she will be able to call you again soon so you can remain in touch.
I'll sit with you, while you wait, if you want?
Thanks. I wish I knew she was safe now. But have no clue. I know it's possible, but I hope hers recovers better after she can get safely and permanently away from her criminally abusive husband. She's very afraid of him, and what he is capable of, as she's been living with that for over 27 years now. I feel so .... :blink: ??? :stars: :'(.

Yes, would be very nice haveing you sit with us. Thank you so much.
#67
 I used to say I was spanked and turnd out okay. But never as a reason to spank my own kids. Mostly in general conversations. But that was all before my memories came back. Now that I know what I went through...even reading these last few posts has got me all triggered and

WE, my brothersand i , we neve r ever ever dared to try hide anything that could be used. Besides, would be kinda hard to hide belt while mommy was wearing it.  Broken wooden spoons....2 broke on backside, and 4 over head. 

:disappear:
#68
General Discussion / Re: Things They Said
July 02, 2018, 01:23:24 AM
Thank you for hugs, made us feel lots better.  :hug: :hug: :hug:

You smart and valuable...priceless even!
#69
WE hope you feeling a bit better. HOpe your nights have been kinder to you. Got some hugs for you.
:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :grouphug:
#70
Hi, just want to say we stop to visit, and see you.  Safe  :hug:if okay.
#71
You so very very much welcome, Hopes, big and little.  ;D  :hug:
#72
Quote from: Sceal on June 20, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
I agree. Hugs only from front. And always careful and gentle and acceptable to say no if that moment is no good.

Oh yes, no hugs right now is always good to say, we know and hear that, and listen.  Sometimes hugs sure can be scary.
#73
Hi big and little Hopes.  :wave: :wave: :wave: :grouphug: hug everyone!!!

Just hit me, maybe the minds not listening to what ears hearing is another dissociative process?  We have lots and lots of lost time...all those missing memories of normal childhood stuffs. We don't actually remember dissociating, or anything when we was little.
Hmmm, first time we did that kind of thing, from what returned memory showed us...we were 13 and being sa/r in open  public place, lots of bystanders....Boy Scout Jamboree in Munich, Germany. Had the fishbowl thing, derealization...depersonalization...not sure which. Was like we were in a big glass box, and nobody saw or heard anything. 

How come they not see us???  :'( ??? :blink: :fallingbricks: :'( :'( :'( We seee them just walking by...why not see big older man doing this to us???

Then BoyScouts we knew came bye and we escaped bad man. But had to lie to other boys say man was our uncle. Cuz we really do actually have German relatives. And he could have been German great-uncle. Could have, but wasn't. Hmmm, why boys see, but not anyone else? Hmmmm...what that mean???

Sorry Hopes, this your place, not ours. We can change it if you want.  :'( :'( :'(  WE try so so hard be brave, you know? Cuz boys 'posed to be brave. But sometmes we just super sacred and freeze up too.   Thannnk you for saying we brave.  :) Brave is so much hard work.  :hug:

#74
Recovery Journals / Re: Hope66's Journal
July 02, 2018, 12:55:17 AM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :grouphug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
Lots of hugs Hope, for you and your littles too! Cuz littles need love too.
#75
Quote from: Hope67 on June 12, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
Hi Andyman,
I hope you will be able to get back in touch with your friend again. 
:hug: to you, Andy.
Hope  :)
Hi Hope,
She called me on the 14th, from a friend's phone. I recognized the area code, so took the risk that it could have been her husbend.  It was her! She sounded really good. I haven't heard that tone in her voice ever. Like there was no stress or anything.  Made me cry tears of joy and relief.

Then the news...broke my heart. She had stroke. Made heart skip beat.  She call us, so not forget us. but what her reemember? Said she is physically okay, but lost 75-80% of her sight, cuz stroke was in that area. But not sure if will be better, if  some or all come back, or not at all. Also said not sure how her brain/mind is. Hasn't had to use it for anything really, so not know what things might be lost.

We told her we lover her so much and we still here for her and littles too. Made her cry several times when said love hr.  Said we miss all of them, and littles need to hear that we still here and lovethem soo much.

Said she be careful not get in trouble from son or husband. So not sure when call again.  So we not know what to do now...been this long. little andy miss his special friends. And special lady always help him get through hard stuff.  We don't know what do now. Can't contact them. We wait....scared maybe lose them forever and never even know about it. Hurts so so much.   
Thanks for  :hug: Hope.