No more being a victim

Started by Healing Finally, May 30, 2024, 07:44:52 PM

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Healing Finally

Hi all  :wave:

It is so interesting how concepts are processed within a traumatized brain, and how one can become aware of something for a long time but who knows when one might act on it.

For a long time I've been aware of the idea of letting go of my anguish from my ongoing family dysfunction, but it's only been recent that I'm starting to feel and understand the benefits of no longer feeling and acting like a victim.

Recently I hit a "oh no you didn't" wall with my mother.  :fallingbricks:

As some of you may know, my (u)NPD sister has banned me from from our immediate family gatherings almost 10 years ago, and my mother (and everyone else) goes along with it because of fear of upsetting my sister.  I was able to attend my nephew's wedding last year as he apparently made some deal with his mother to allow me to go.  I thought we were finally done with this crap, then recently my son tells me he's been invited to my mother's 92nd birthday, with the understanding that I'm not invited.

Of course this news threw me for a loop, as I traveled into yet another emotional flashback for a few days... :no: - that usual feeling of "how could they"?  How could she (my mother) stand for this?  :'(

THEN, I was zooming with my mother a few days later, and she casually asks me if my son could attend her birthday party, as we were talking about him.  I looked at her with this rather shocked face, so you are asking me, the person who can't attend your birthday, if my son is able to go?  :aaauuugh:

This was the frigging last straw for me!!  :aaauuugh:

I wrote her an email afterwards about how painful it is for her to not to understand how her actions hurt me.  Knowing from experience that I shouldn't send it right away, I waited, thank goodness.

Because I FINALLY REALIZED, I don't want to be that person anymore!!  I don't want to have to continually remind people how they hurt me! 

What I now am beginning to truly understand is I can let go of the hurt and anguish and still be true to myself.  :yes:

I can MOVE ON, and this painful identity of scorned sister/daughter/aunt can basically vanish.  :dramaqueen:

So that's what I'm working on now... :cheer:

Thanks all for being there...
 :grouphug:



dollyvee

Good for you  :cheer: That is a big step  :grouphug:

woodsgnome

#2
 Congratulations :applause: 

Thanks for sharing the birth of your new outlook. May it continue helping you along your healing journey.

 

Kizzie

#3
You know Healing Finally that is a huge step so congrats! It's appalling that your S has managed to turn the fam against you but that us what some of them do. It's such a betrayal that your M would ask you if your son could go. How on earth did she think that would make you feel? What a betrayal. I hope writing the email helped you bring that to the surface and let yourself feel the power of saying the **** with that, no more.

 :hug: hug if that's OK.

Chaos rains

Well done, Healing Finally! It seems like it should be a simple enough realization, but it's such a freakin' hard place to get to!  Realizing that my mom said and did things like that for the express purpose of hurting me was a tough one for me. But your experience is so familiar to me.

I think turning your back on that identity they created for you is so powerful. Once you walk away there is nothing they can do to you. They'll try, for sure, but you rock that grey rock!

Papa Coco

Healing Finally

This post certainly supports your chosen name of Healing Finally. I think of this as a major step toward releasing the distress that your FOO has caused you for Far too long.

I applaud your decision to not tell your family how much they've hurt you over the years. That's victim speak. You're moving past being their victim, so no point in having the last words be about how much they've hurt you.

With narcissists, when we complain to them about how we've been treated, it actually feeds their viscious natures. It proves to them that they were able to hurt you, and that's actually what they've always wanted: to hurt you.

Saying nothing, but just walking away and shaking the dust off your feet is the cleanest and most appropriate way to end the abuse. Just like when you don't like a TV show, all you have to do is turn off the TV or change the channel.

Whatever they choose to say about you after you've vanished from their abuse is their problem. They'll try saying things that they wish they could hurt you with, but when you escape a narcissist, THEY suffer terribly. Escaping them is the only thing you can do that hurts them. Narcissists don't make friends, they take prisoners. Period. The ONE thing that sets a prisoner free is escape and vanish.  You aren't hurting them, they're choosing to reel in anger. You can go away feeling no guilt or shame for having said anything hurtful. You just escaped a predator. That's all you've done. You've escaped a predator. How that predator chooses to feel about it is something you have NO control over. Live and let live.

I'm so happy to have read your post. I sincerely hope you are able to feel good about your decision to just let them have whatever it is they seem to need in life, but without you to kick around anymore.

My heart really goes out to what they've put you through all these years. It absolutely hurts more to be excluded than anything else. They've found that it's fun to exclude you, and that they really enjoy knowing that they've hurt you. But if you no longer even ask to be included, well...now they have to find another way to get their jollies.

I'm pullin' for you!

Healing Finally

Thank you all for your positive responses.  :cheer:

Just FYI, I am not doing what I wanted to do!! 

The party for my mother is today, so geez, I really wanted to not let it get to me, but omg, I just haven't gotten there yet. 

Also my nephew's wife in in a musical (she is playing Nancy in Oliver) and they are all going tomorrow to see her, damn I would have loved to have seen that.

I'm totally anxious and can't focus and can't do anything but sleep and watch TV.

So, that's what I'm doing.

Maybe next week I can start on the no longer being a victim thing...  :stars:

It's so weird how the brain can go forward and then backwards again!  GRRRRRRRR that dang C-PTSD!

Thanks for being there....and helping me to have faith.... :grouphug:

Blueberry

On seeing your post, I want to say a few things. I hope they're helpful. Easier to see for other people than for myself of course. Others on the forum remind me of them when I can't see them for myself...

Quote from: Healing Finally on June 02, 2024, 12:49:46 AMJust FYI, I am not doing what I wanted to do!! 

The party for my mother is today, so geez, I really wanted to not let it get to me, but omg, I just haven't gotten there yet. 


Please be gentle with yourself. You're making huge progress.
This "no more being a victim" thing - that's a really big step to make, especially from 100 to 0 or even 80 to 0 (or wherever else you would have put yourself on that scale before you decided to not be a victim anymore). The same goes for not letting the party for your M not get to you. Our emotions take their time to settle down, our heads  - our 'wants' are head-driven I do believe - run on ahead but can't force our emotions or nervous systems to settle.

Quote from: Healing Finally on June 02, 2024, 12:49:46 AMI'm totally anxious and can't focus and can't do anything but sleep and watch TV.

So, that's what I'm doing.

It's OK to be just sleeping and watching TV. Another mbr reminded me a couple of days ago that processing goes on during sleep, dreams and - I remember now - while I'm zonked out. Or sometimes we just need a rest. Self-work and the processing that goes with it are tiring. It's understandable that we need rest.

Quote from: Healing Finally on June 02, 2024, 12:49:46 AMMaybe next week I can start on the no longer being a victim thing...  :stars:

I think you already have started on it...

Quote from: Healing Finally on June 02, 2024, 12:49:46 AMIt's so weird how the brain can go forward and then backwards again!  GRRRRRRRR that dang C-PTSD!


Something I heard a long time ago, which I don't remember being said here on OOTS but maybe it has been: "Recovery isn't about reaching the end of a scale and staying there, it's about following the pendulum back-and-forth. There will always be back and forth movements but eventually the pendulum will stay more in the middle and not go into the extremes."  That's just one way to look at it and it may not be correct and I often forget all about it.

Or of course: Two steps forward, one step back.
But also: Baby steps count.
Then again: Grrrrrr.  :pissed: I totally agree. Sooo frustrating.

 :hug:  :hug:




dollyvee

Sorry HealingFinally that you're feeling that way, but IMO you did the right thing by putting yourself first. I'm sure that there are parts of you that very much want and need that relationship with your mother and family, but how hurtful it is to you to have people treat you like that.

There's an interesting part in Ingrid Clayton's book, Believing Me, where she talks about how difficult it is to be there for herself when she is still in a relationship with the people (her mother) who gaslit her growing up. I really resonated with this idea of "good girl" programming, that this is who we are supposed to be, putting other people before us, even when they treat us appallingly. I think because it happened from such an early age, it's hard to break out of this pattern of "that's who we are, and these are the things we're supposed to do."

I'm sorry you're not able to be there at the musical, but you are there for yourself at the moment and that's really important.

Sending you support,
dolly

Healing Finally

Thanks Blueberry and dollyvee,

Sounds like I need to pick up that book "Believing Me" for sure.

Appreciate everyone's support.

Today I'm pushing myself to go see a jazz band in the botanical gardens, sounds like it would be wonderful eh? 

But I'm dragging my heels, forcing myself to go. 

NO MORE VICTIM...

HUGS  :grouphug: 

Papa Coco

HealingFinally,

Dolly and Blueberry have said it all. I love what they wrote to you, and I can' add much more than a bunch of hugs for support.

:hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:

No matter what you do today, or how you choose to handle this, you are loved on this forum, and your friends are feeling these pains with you.

Healing Finally

HI all, I thought to give an update.  :wave: 

I did go hear the jazz band in the Humboldt botanical gardens yesterday and it was a great experience.  I met with a (everyone is over 50 years old) group I found on the website "meetup", and it was just great to have a group to meet (vs going all alone.)  I made some new friends and there are upcoming events that everyone was talking about (hiking is next.)  I am so grateful I was able to get out.  :cheer:

Last night I received a detailed email from my mother all about her weekend.  It's the frickin' weirdest thing how she can be so disconnected from the hurt it causes me to hear about it.  I'm so grateful I didn't read it until this morning as it set me off again.  :stars: 

I was able to talk to my psychologist about it all this morning, and I told her about the email I was going to send my mother (originally referred to in this post) asking her, should I have sent it?  But, we both agreed it was good I didn't and she suggested I respond back to my mother "I'm glad you had a good time, it was a rough weekend for me."  And so I did. 

Still not going to be a victim, but I realize the C-PTSD can do it's number on me, at least I am feeling better today.  It's not wrong to state my reality.  Onward and forward, thanks for being there y'all.  :grouphug:

Blueberry

Quote from: Healing Finally on June 03, 2024, 07:46:30 PMHI all, I thought to give an update.  :wave: 

I did go hear the jazz band in the Humboldt botanical gardens yesterday and it was a great experience.  I met with a (everyone is over 50 years old) group I found on the website "meetup", and it was just great to have a group to meet (vs going all alone.)  I made some new friends and there are upcoming events that everyone was talking about (hiking is next.)  I am so grateful I was able to get out.  :cheer:

 :cheer:  :cheer:  :cheer:

Papa Coco

HealingFinally

I'm SO glad you had fun with the meetup group at the jazz event!!!!!  And, from where I sit, your mom's email bragging about how much fun she had without you was a dig. An attack. And by not responding, or by responding how you did, you didn't play into it.

She came off looking like the assailant. You came off looking like someone who didn't fight back and didn't deserve her attack. That's the stuff that changes the relationship. When her own meanness is the only thing hanging in the air, it points all fingers back toward her. If you had fought back, or said anything, your words would be the last words hanging. In her mind, your reaction would have made you the problem. No reaction leaves her own attack as the problem.

I feel some triggering in this and I'm glad I do, because it helps me feel my empathy with you. If this didn't trigger me it would mean I'm not connected to your struggle. And I like being able to send my support from a place of true connection. I'm not just a talking hallmark greeting card that's saying generic nice things, but I'm able to feel like I'm a true connection soul to soul with someone who understands me while I understand you.

Wow. I'm just so proud of you for going to the jazz event and having a good time while they hoped you'd be sitting around crying, or crashing their parties so you could look like you were crazy.

Healing Finally

thanks PapaCoco for your thoughts.  :wave: - my mother is not vindictive and really doesn't have a mean bone in her body.  She is just totally clueless.  She is a true flying monkey of my sister.  She wants to believe we are still a family.  I've asked her dozens of times not to give me details of events I'm not invited to and it's just pointless to do this anymore.

Way before my family alienation, I continually had to deal with my mother bending over backwards for my sister's needs while she stomped on mine.  If I point out to her that she's hurt me, she will feel terrible, but her traumatized brain will then get mad at me for pointing this out and then I'm the bad guy again.

Part of my challenge in all this is to try not to take anything personally.  I understand why my sister does what she does, and I understand why my mother does what she does; and honestly it has nothing to do with me!! I'm just the dumping ground. I just need to do what I can to stay out of the way, so that I'm not a victim!