Freeze-Fawn Type

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chairmanmeow

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Re: Freeze-Fawn Type
« Reply #60 on: June 10, 2016, 06:45:41 PM »
Depression when its not chemical (brain chemistry, clinical depression)
Is often the same as extreme disassociation the flip side of shutting down from anxiety overdrive.

So I imagine the side effects of depression would translate...

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LanaBanana

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« Reply #61 on: June 10, 2016, 06:57:15 PM »
Thanks Chairmanmeow, I'm not too sure if that answers my question, but thanks!  :thumbup:

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« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2016, 07:45:43 PM »
 Nana banana I have that too. Where your suddenly do tired u just need to lie down and sleep.
I have read online that that can happen.
And as a freeze true oversleeping is something Pete walker talks about.
Do u feel that hour limbs are  heavy when you ate disassociated abs need to fall asleep?
I think it's similar to being drunk or stoned. Hope this helps.  :hug:

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LanaBanana

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« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2016, 08:15:26 PM »
Yes, that's exactly how I feel, thank you Sienna!  :hug:

When my ex would get violent, I'd end up dissociating to the point where this would happen to me, I'd suddenly start falling asleep even though I wasn't tired. It felt like I had no control over my own body, and it made my ex even more upset.

Thank you for your reply!  :thumbup:

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Sienna

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« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2016, 09:05:46 PM »
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I'm sorry you had a violent X.
It's must have Bryan terrible that he got mad they you fell asleep.
I hope that you u understand that it's not your fault being so tired like that. And therefore, it wasn't your fault they your X was upset.

uku defi story are not alone in experiencing this. Oh and just thought - even though huh are not tired then u disassociate and are tired due to that, I have found that when the disassociation suddenly lifts. I'm not tired anymore and sometimes I can't sleep when so tired when disassociated.
After it it's like someone flipped a switch and going into disassociation can feel like that to me sometimes.
Sometimes I just want to stay wake as I enjoy sometimes that disassociated feeling Snd I end up being just so tired though whilst experiencing it. Now I'm just rambling.

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« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2016, 09:16:37 PM »
Thank you for your support Sienna!!  :hug:
I think I get what you mean of not being able to fall asleep afterwards. Dissociative episodes are weird, I don't think I fully understand them yet  :blink:

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« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2020, 01:12:42 PM »
We tried new things she liked to tie me up. My own mind is a confusing thing, I found myself letting go without the elements of disassociation, being desired and not able to really go anywhere or do anything left me with no expectations to agonize over, no choice but to accept comfort and love, fully embrace a fawn response unhindered by freeze tendencies. Only to come out of it being shamed by your own inner critic for reasons your can put your finger on other then fear of being so open and genuine.

I just wanted to say to chairmanmeow that this is what brought me to OOTS in the first place, so youíre not alone. I fell for someone quickly who promised control and to take care of those things that I always wanted taking care of as a child. Only to find they were not there outside this type of relationship - that it was for their own gratification when I tried to establish healthy boundaries (to which Iím still questioning but itís a learning process).  So, youíre not alone in feeling that when you come out of something like this that itís you, and youíre just not lovable or why did I choose someone like this, whatís wrong with me.

Iíve been in this situation before and I think whatís helped me this time with someone whoís emotionally unavailable (after recognizing I had CPTSD and starting EMDR with a good therapist) was that I noticed when I started to ďspin outĒ when he would be emotionally distant. So, I had started on the inklings of a healthy self in the first place and could see that something was off. I stuck with it (the research - trying to find out why I was spinning out in the first place) and it eventually led me here. Even though I knew about CPSTD, and that I had it, I couldnít recognize that I was in a flashback because of this personís behaviour. In Pete Walkers book, itís the freeze type and the fawn that have the most buried sense of self (but Iíll need to double check that!). So, itís no wonder this feelings are so hard to place.  :fallingbricks: